Episode 8: The Change Curve


In this episode, host Chris Thornton interviews Daggerwing Group Principal and Chartered Organizational Psychologist Maria Dodd for a miniseries on the psychology of change. In this episode, Chris and Maria discuss the psychological implications of change in the workplace, and how to look deeper into the human and emotional responses of the brain. Using the Kubler Ross Change Curve model, they explore the importance of considering change as a journey, how leaders should prepare for challenges along the way, and how they can better understand what their employees are experiencing to get ahead of and better manage change.

Chris Thornton is a Principal at Daggerwing Group. In his senior role, Chris has worked with leading with companies including Nestle, Amgen, GE Aviation, Cox Communications and Pfizer to do change right and make it stick. He helps clients meet strategic goals by transforming their cultures, and equipping and enabling people managers to lead and embed change. He is also the host of Daggerwing Group’s podcast, [email protected] Chris and his wife were featured in the New York Times for their love of pie.
Maria is a Principal at Daggerwing Group. She has twelve years of change management and engagement programs experience, across a range of sectors including pharmaceutical, technological, automotive, aerospace and financial services. Maria is passionate about psychology and applying human insights to help clients to inspire and enable their people in achieving the organization’s goals. Maria has an MSC in Organizational Psychology and is a Chartered Organizational Psychologist. In 2020, Marie picked up the piano again and got in her daily 10,000 steps in the English countryside.