Episode 8: The Change Curve


In this episode, host Chris Thornton interviews Daggerwing Group Principal and Chartered Organizational Psychologist Maria Dodd for a miniseries on the psychology of change. In this episode, Chris and Maria discuss the psychological implications of change in the workplace, and how to look deeper into the human and emotional responses of the brain. Using the Kubler Ross Change Curve model, they explore the importance of considering change as a journey, how leaders should prepare for challenges along the way, and how they can better understand what their employees are experiencing to get ahead of and better manage change.

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Chris Thornton is a Senior Principal and member of the global leadership team at Daggerwing Group. In his role, Chris serves as a source of strategic counsel for Senior Executives with client firms, advising them on how to help clients achieve Executive alignment, transform their cultures and equip and enable people managers to lead and embed change. An expert in the people side of change with both client-side and consulting experience, Chris has worked with leading companies including Nestlé, Pfizer, and GE Aviation to do change right and make it stick. He is also an active speaker on business transformation, a driver of innovation in Daggerwing’s breadth of change consulting services, and the host of Daggerwing Group’s podcast, [email protected] Chris and his wife were featured in the New York Times for their love of pie.
Maria is a Principal at Daggerwing Group. She has twelve years of change management and engagement programs experience, across a range of sectors including pharmaceutical, technological, automotive, aerospace and financial services. Maria is passionate about psychology and applying human insights to help clients to inspire and enable their people in achieving the organization’s goals. Maria has an MSC in Organizational Psychology and is a Chartered Organizational Psychologist. In 2020, Marie picked up the piano again and got in her daily 10,000 steps in the English countryside.
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