In this episode, host Chris Thornton interviews Senior Principal Michelle Mahony. Michelle leads the U.S. team at Daggerwing Group where she partners with some of the world’s leading organizations to get the most out of transformations by facilitating executive alignment on business goals, designing and driving organizational, operational and cultural change and creating inspired employee experiences. Michelle discusses the powerful position leaders hold in driving change. She and Chris examine what it means to be human and how “being real” and empathetic with employees has a positive impact effect. She emphasizes that the connection between emotion and rationale during a change is crucial for success.